I don't imagine you will find out a reference for what you are looking for. File sizes will be dependent on the book having images like book covers and publisher logos. I find that a lot if the books give you page lengths on amazons website and someone on the kindle store. I actually noticed that quite a few of the books I've looked at lately don't have print copies or page counts - as the novella in question didn't.
I think I'm going to have to restrict my buying to books that have print editions that I can reference for length, which is quite a bummer since it knocks out a huge section of available books. I've gotten a few book like what you mentioned. I try to look at the file size and guesstimate but it doesn't always work so I either end up staying away from the small files or I read the reviews.
I usually read the reviews here and Amazon. Otherwise I either just risk it or stay away and lately I've been doing more staying away than risking. Usually if I right a review, and it's not mentioned, I'll mention that this book only has so many Kindle pages. More dots on your menu listing means a longer book. Short books have only a few dots. Novella k words about pages give or take.
The other issue is that you can not see said dots until after purchasing the book.
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Dee - Good to know about the word ranges! Tina - I feel like I should write a review on the novellas just so other readers know that it is a novella and not a full length book.
It's just such a pain to get invested in a story and then have it just end too quickly. Thank goodness for all you helpful people! When you look at the book details they usually say how many bytes they are either gb or mb, can't remember. If you look at a book you already have then you can check thepage count and then compare. It's kb and large books are around kb. However graphics such as pictures, maps, tables etc Can skew the file size plus it is not easy to see the file size of existing books without plugging the kindle into a computer and viewing the contents of the document folder.
It's better than nothing but not the most user friendly solution. Jackie Renee Good point I always forget about the dots on the home screen. But it is number of dots not how far apart the dots are that matters on the home screen. It still does not help solve the original problem as you can only see the home screen dots after you buy the book. Has anyone else noticed that after a certain length the number of dots on the home screen stop? Dance with Dragons pages hardback has the same length as Stoneweilder pages paperback and both were purchased directly through Amazon.
Aug 11, I put an exact wordcount on my bookpages. In the digital age that is the only reliable norm, I think. That they 'fit' on the same amount of pages is due to type of font used, kerning and different spacing between lines. I know the amount of words of a few books by heart, so it's easy to compare. It would be useful, IMHO, if all books mentioned the word count.
I sometimes will look to see if the book is on Smashwords because they give the word count that's if I can remember to go there. I'm not paying that much for what equals about a chapter. Word counts help if you have a reference, so thanks Andrew. The last two I read on kindle have the same amount of dots on the homepage. One book is pages the other pages! Samples are a good indication, I hadn't thought of them. So multiply by 10 and there is your page count. Sep 06, Before my print edition came out, I made sure to list the word count just below the description of my ebook.
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Otherwise, it would be a guessing game. As Helen said, file size is also a good indication. Anything less than 60k and you're getting into the novella territory. If the sample is several chapters it's a pretty good assumption that the book is fairly long, however, if yo It should be the publisher's responsibility to accurately describe the product. Word count is tricky because most readers don't really think about "word count," and page count can be easily adjusted as noted in the Rowling example above. In such a case, the publisher could use, for example, "A novella of 21, words, approximately print pages.
Sep 07, I put both the word count on mine and the number of pages, being the word count divided by , which is the number of words on a typical paperback page. I also say that it assumes words per page. Some use words per page, but is closer to reality and gives a reader a good idea of book size.
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Hmmm, I don't put the word count in my book. I wonder if there's a way add it in the metadata when publishing the file? It'd be worth a look. Otherwise, that's a good idea to include, Steve. I suppose it could go on the title page at the front of the book. Hi PJ, I guess you could put it in the book itself.
I only put it in the description though because I figure that's where a potential buyer wants to see that kind of information. If they've bought the book it's already too late and you don't want customers to have to download the sample just to find out how big or small a book it is.
Just put the details ahead of your description. Heres how mine appears: Dots on the progress bar little white squares, actually when you have a book open are chapter markers, but not all books have the chapter marks in them, so you don't always know how far from the end of a section you are. Stormhawk, See messages 12 and 14 covering this. Feb 05, Since there is no official standard of wpp I see used - my guess it that they for for the and under estimate rather than over estimate. I've read that Amazon counts pages taking into account average page-turns needed when actually reading the book on a Kindle device or app--so the page count includes both how many Kindle pages it is for someone using a very large font, and someone using a very small font.
It doesn't really have anything to do with how many words are on a printed page, though. Do you notice that longer books have page counts more in line with what you'd expect for a paperback? I haven't paid attention to it myself so I might be missing something you're seeing. May 24, For whatever it may be worth, I've developed my own system for determining how much I'm willing to spend on a Kindle ebook.
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Based on intensive research g into my 10, book library true number I came to the conclusion that a "normal" paperback mainstream novel is about pages. Oh for the days of yesteryear when the price was several bucks lower! So what I do is divide the number of pages by the price, and multiple that by 8. If the book is otherwise interesting enough to buy, then it's worth the price.
I figure I'm getting more bang for my electronic buck this way. Arthur Conan Doyle Posts: Amazon's math is very fuzzy. But for the "print pages" that appear on the product page you can estimate about words per page. So 50k on the low end and 60k on the high end. Just to add on - the page count on the Amazon sales page can be changed by uploading a paperback version.
Zombie's words per page estimate is accurate for Kindle files, so a 60, word book might come up as pages. But if the author links a paperback version, they could increase the listed pagecount to if the book is formatted to only have words per page. I recently released a novel that was just over 70, words and it was listed as having pages on its amazon page: So, I really don't understand how it's calculated.
Edgar Allan Poe Posts: I think Amazon uses something like words per "page". But I also think they actually go by characters which will include spaces and enters. My Dinosaur Chronicles collection is 60, words. The visible Kindle page count until overridden by the paperback's page count was KENPC page count was So for a text-only title, words per Kindle page as shown on the book's product page is a pretty accurate estimate. The KENPC page is an accounting concept akin to a "standard candle" by which you are paid, if you're in Kindle Select and your pages read are actually being counted.
KENPC pages include some algorithmic values and equivalents for pages with illustrations, so that an illustrated history of the Crimean War, e. The answers are all over the board. I guess there's no one "right" answer when it comes to the mysterious Amazon. Do those of you who use Vellum find this to be true? Not trying to scam the system, but I don't want to be missing out on page reads by using an inferior program.
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Listen to me, you will. Iverson on March 07, , Lee on March 07, , Right around 55k is probably your sweet spot. The number of print pages can be manipulated. I print 6x9 trade paperbacks, and 60K comes out to pages. If you print 5x8, then you inflate the number of pages. I've had books where the KENP computes to words per page and another at words per page. It seems to be rather random, and Zon plays with it on the back end. Chameleon Assassin was originally KENP, then mysteriously became when I updated back matter with the new book.
This may be a noob question, but where do you find how many KENCP your book is, and how is it different to what's shown on the product page? Thanks for any help!