Not at a gate but close to a terminal in both locations. Any idea what they were doing there? Dan — I also saw an Allegiant plane at London Stansted airport a few weeks ago and thought it was very odd to see it there. Forgot the name though. I saw an allegiant plane parked in the grass at Amman Jordan airport few months back. What a random sighting. It was ex easyJet plane; apparently they do the conversions at Stansted, after moving from Cambridge. Dan You probably saw a Jet2holidays plane which has an almost identical livery.
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It would make sense as they have a hub at Stansted. Hopefully the 60 Minutes report will shake things up. So bad press about an airline? You can always count on a. Brushing off this blatant disregard for pax safety is really insane. Aviation industry employees not letting their family and friends fly Allegiant is all you need to know.
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That airline has serious issues that needed to be bought to light. Problem is, their target market probably wont have watched it and may not care that much. This would thing is symptom of the race to the bottom, though.
We, as customers, have let a service industry become one where the worst service wins because of low fares even though you pay thriugh the nose for everything else. Wall Street is to blame as well. I happened to have 60 Minutes on when this report came on. Overall scary and I have to say the lack of serious concern from the FAA was almost as concerning as the airlines safety record.
Have never flown them and definitely will never after this report. I used to fly Allegiant quite a bit between SFB and various endpoints. Never had any safety issues. On time performance was their biggest perceived shortcoming.
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This idea that the airline is unsafe has been around since the Tampa Bay Times did an in-depth investigative report on this subject a couple years ago. It was a huge report, ended up nationally syndicated, and really succeeded in placing the issue into the public forum. Despite this, the stock still went up and the airline has continued expanding. I will fly them if the price and schedule is advantageous.
The relationship between the airline and its employees is so acrimonious that it looks tough to get straight answers from either side. Flown Allegiant many times since I live in fly over country and like the convenience of a direct to Vegas in Sioux Falls. It will be interesting to see if the FAA cracks down on them, which is honestly my hope, as that will do a lot of good in forcing them to improve, and hopefully they can then continue to service under served markets why they are so successful.
I am terrified if they dont, well have a valuejet situation which will kill them and all aboard. For hackers, they also can be convenient for positioning flights, particularly for Vegas and Korean Air. Banks for example while not directly endangering lives regularly do the illegal knowing the fines they will have to pay will be worth it. Allegiant will carry on its merry ways until it cannot and by then management will have cashed out. Lucky — A typo in para 3: James—thanks for your digging!
Had I not been in an aisle seat, I would have taken a photo as proof. Since the report I have advised everyone to avoid Allegiant, this validates my position on them. Just booked tickets and I am scared to death. Seems like after this reporting consumers should have the right to cancel if they do not feel safe to fly this airline. As someone who makes a living out of aviation compliance, I can state my professional opinion that there are definitely some red flags there, notably with regards to the punitive actions and reluctant transparency.
I have always welcomed audits of my paperwork, if only to show off how much effort our team puts into safety and compliance.
That in itself is not particularly noteworthy or alarming. The role of management is to balance safety with commercial concerns to minimise operational disruptions while ensuring no compromise on either safety or the perception of safety.
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If your crew and your passengers think you are unsafe, you have already failed in your responsibility, regardless of the technicalities or your profitability. To summarise an old saying in the industry — if you think safety is expensive, consider the alternative. None of the Allegiant stuff is surprising given prior investigative reports. What is surprising is the lack of FAA response, and lack of enforcement. The absence of fines for the major flight system violation s cited in the report is enabling this scary practice of ignoring safety.
And it could impact other carrier safety. It may have been that one you saw, as well. Clearly, they failed the American public. Just keep in mind, even if Allegiant is 3 times more dangerous than commercial aviation in general, driving to your destination is still TIMES more dangerous than flying Allegiant. The Delta vs Allegiant statistics provided above were telling. I think from now on I am not going to frown in disgust when my Delta captain announces there will be a delay due to maintenance… Thanks Captain, sounds good…you take as much time as you need to take care of it!
The autoplay video was the 60 Minutes clip. The autoplay is really obnoxious. I love this blog, but seriously, maybe just include a link vs. The last time I faced getting to a small regional airport, I picked flying via DFW 3 hours more just in flight time rather than taking the non-stop Allegiant. Took a rental car oneway home. After hearing the expose on 60 minutes, I will change carriers immediately for our planned trip in June. How dare the FAA not be responsive to the many complaints! And how to get a refund?
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What a fantastic comparison. That really puts things in perspective. You can find lots of similar stories about them on the web. People acting like this was never heard of and overreacting is pretty stupid. This has been lingering for years about them. Thanks Lucky for posting the full 60 minutes report. Most airlines also allow you to carry on a single small personal item that fits underneath the seat in front of you — think a purse, laptop case or small briefcase.
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