The last time we wrote about this see the link in our first sentence above was to discuss an article from Answers in Genesis.
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This new article appears at their website: Morris is regarded as the father of the modern creation science movement. Not only that, but he founded a creationist dynasty. Linear sequences of rings are obtained by cross-matching tree ring patterns from living trees and those from older dead wood. Most chronologies only go back a few centuries, but a few give longer ages than the Bible seems to allow, supposedly up to 10, years or so.
Yes — perhaps the devil is messing around with those tree rings to confuse us.
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But how valid is the assumption of one ring per year in a climate where tree-growing conditions are variable? That very assumption is regularly put to the test by research foresters. They investigate how a tree grows, how and when it adds a new ring, effect of nutrients, rainfall, etc. Morris has a footnote leading to a creationist publication. Unusual storms with abundant rainfall interspersed with dry periods can produce multiple rings, essentially one per major storm. Thus, the basic assumption of tree ring dating is demonstrably in error.
Can we trust the overlapping calibration curves? Even if a storm can occasionally produce an extra ring, the Flood is supposed to have occurred about 4, years ago, and Creation was only 2, years before then, so how could any tree ring chronology show an uninterrupted time span of 11, years? Index to Creationist Claims. As it pertains to Flood model considerations, remember that the centuries immediately following the Flood witnessed the coming of the Ice Age.
All trees growing on the continents were recently sprouted, actively growing trees. The still-warm oceans rapidly evaporated seawater, thus providing the raw material for major monsoonal-type storms. Earth was ravaged by frequent and wide-ranging atmospheric disturbances, dumping excessive snowfall in northern regions and rainfall to the south. If ever there was a time when multiple rings could develop in trees, this was it.
Yes — but could that account for literally thousands of extra tree rings? Besides, how does Morris know what the weather was like back then? Those centuries probably produced tree ring growth that was anything but annual. Thus, far from disproving biblical history, tree ring studies provide supportive and instructive information about true history. They actually help to prove that the bible is true! Permalink for this article.
The Fallacy of Tree Ring Dating by Steven Holmes (Paperback) - Lulu
This one is too easy. The first 6 days of Creation were not 24 hour days. Each one of those days was exactly as many hours long as a tree requires to generate rings. The trees took day 7 off to let the bark cool down. This explains the life-span of Methuselah. His father planted a tree when he was born, and he lived 35 years. But they cut down the tree when he died and it had rings. They are not interested in teaching the truth of the Bible. They want to promote their own foolishness, and refuse to learn what the truth of Genesis is. Since they refuse to accept biblical evidence of their error, you KNOW they will refuse evidence from secular science.
You have to admit, Morris is good. When that much is at stake, it helps to be glib, not to think too much and stick to the story line.
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Plus, he has the added benefit of having been edumactaed by daddy. All that excessive weather should leave corresponding patterns in alluvial fans all over the world. If some careful examination of these Post-Flood deposits showed correlation with the tree-ring data, that would provide confirmatory evidence for the theory. This idiot No, idiot is too good for him moron wannabe is going to be in Fond Du Lac, a mere 70 miles away from me, in 25 days. Even a creationist has to read this thing by Morris and figure out: Oops, looks like this is already an active topic.
No doubt one of these will turn up the proof for them. All Morris needs to do is wait … and wait … and wait …. Not only do varves agree with tree rings, so do ice cores. One is an event; two a conincidence; three a conspiracy. Why is there nothing recorded in the Bible about the Americas, Australia and Antarctica? Why are the only things about the natural world recorded in the Bible those things which would be familiar to residents of the Ancient Near East?
Tree Rings Are Proof of Noah’s Flood
BTW, according to Wikipedia, Oldest living things Individual plant specimens , the oldest living plants are a bit less than years old. Curmudgeon, thought you might be interested in this. Let the YEC explain this. And then, all the trees magically survived the global flood. Because that also makes perfect sense.
Young Earth creationists often doubt other forms of dating, such as radiometric dating , that invalidate their worldview of a 6,year-old Earth , often because those dating methods are harder to understand, more prone to potential error, and science-y. Dendrochronology, on the other hand, can be done by anyone, and feels less science-y.
If a tree is proven to be older than about 4, years, then it is impossible for that tree to have survived the global flood , which in turn proves biblical literalism and creationism false.
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Until creationists say that God protected this singular tree for no apparent reason reasons we cannot comprehend , which is a perfectly acceptable response which also proves that creationism is religion , not a science. Many tree records have been constructed that extend beyond 4, years old. Currently unnamed is years old too many , [6] [7] and is the oldest known living tree dated by dendrochronology. Prometheus is years old too many. Methuselah is years old too many. King Clone , a creosote bush ring, is approximately 11, years old.
First, the number of rings in the plant and by calculating the annual annual growth, and second by radiocarbon dating the wood of the centermost portion of the plant. Old Tjikko is approximately 9, years old. The Llangernyw Yew is approximately 4,, years old. The King Clone Creosote Bush 11, years old is only about 7, years old.
Creosote bush may be oldest living organism on Earth. Retrieved from " https: Creationism Evidence against a recent creation Science History Archaeology. Views Read Edit Fossil record.
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