Gradually pulling It's a very engaging read. Gradually pulling together various strands, he discovered that the Apostolic Authority of the Roman Catholic church easily defeats modernism precisely where Evangelicalism fell. I am not knowledgeable enough to critique his evidence or conclusions, but the argument feels weak at points and may give a little too much attention to straw men. I do not think I can say that his argument is conclusive, but it is definitely compelling and winsome.
I hear that there is an expanded edition that recently came out. May 29, Penny rated it liked it. This book is an easy read but still includes enough "meat" to satisfy those really trying to gain a better understanding of the issue. At the end of his study he was convinced of the importance of tradition along with the Bible as a complete version of what's be This book is an easy read but still includes enough "meat" to satisfy those really trying to gain a better understanding of the issue. At the end of his study he was convinced of the importance of tradition along with the Bible as a complete version of what's been handed down to us by the Apostles.
So convinced, in fact, that he converted to Catholicism. All in all, a helpful book for giving me a better understanding of the tradition that I was born into and sometimes take for granted. View all 3 comments. May 16, Jenna St Hilaire rated it really liked it. Straightforward, well-put explanation of the process of discovering the authority of Sacred Tradition. Shea focuses on the fact that the shift from evangelical to Catholic is an act of fulfillment, not of renunciation.
I'm tempted to give it five stars for that alone, and am only marking it down from there at all because it didn't otherwise say a lot that seemed new to me--but then, I've made that shift. For those curious or in the consideration process, it should be a good read.
Nov 14, Daniel Lower rated it really liked it. I am not sure if Shea has totally dispensed with all possible criticisms of this book most especially, I'm not sure if quite every spin on sola scriptura succumbs equally to his criticisms. However, I think that for the light reader as well as for more educated ones, it serves as a solid example of a Catholic argument against the notion of sola scriptura and against the exclusion of tradition as a mode of authority. Jan 24, Noel rated it really liked it Shelves: Felt like it started out a little slow building a foundation that didn't seem to apply to the general subject.
Although after the first chapter or so it became a lot more focused. A great explanation of the myths and need for a proper understanding of the history of the authority of scriptures and the Catholic Church. Jul 29, Faith rated it it was amazing. I read this book over the weekend. I actually bought this from the author and got him to autograph it! Anyway, I found it fascinating and I absolutely love his witty, hard punching but clear writing style. He really makes the subject matter easy to understand. Feb 03, Silver rated it liked it Shelves: Started out slow and I am not sure the beginning really related to the rest of the book.
There is some good stuff in here, but a few leaps in logic. I should have read this when I first entered the Catholic Church; it's not meaty enough for my current tastes. Mar 22, Seth Holler rated it really liked it. Has the strengths and weqknessss of a popular style: I'll be rereading the central chapters. May 17, Bernard rated it really liked it Shelves: Some obvious flaws, but on the whole some good points. I wondered why the author didn't consider Orthodoxy as a viable option?
Sep 11, Matthew rated it really liked it Shelves: Pretty good, but there are better books and articles on the internet on this subject. May 06, Elena rated it really liked it. This is a conversion story based on research and great knowledge of the bible we Catholics should follow the example of our Protestants brothers and sisters. I'm sure there were struggles, doubts, tears and fears but this book is not about that but where, what and how in the history of Christianity Mr Shea found the answer to his question.
At the end of the book there are resources Mr. Shea used, a few which I plan to read. Jul 28, Jon rated it really liked it. A helpful book; however, he doesn't do justice to the Reformed view of Scripture. I want to see the catholic response to John Frame, John Calvin, etc. If anyone can recommend resources, please do.
Jul 13, Dean rated it it was amazing.
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I don't like the author personally. I think he's a jerk online. The book however is quite good. Jan 08, Leslie rated it it was amazing. This book was very challenging to my former Evangelical world view. On my way to full communion with the Catholic Church, it helped me to see the validity of Tradition in our Christian faith.
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Oct 31, Daniel rated it really liked it Shelves: This is a fascinating account of a Protestant Christian coming to the realization that Louis Bouyer succinctly describes in his book The Word, Church and Sacraments in Protestantism and Catholicism: In reaction against a destructive, anti-biblical modernist critique, Mark Shea begins to build a response, which ultimately leads him to realize one step at a time that the very authority of Scripture whic This is a fascinating account of a Protestant Christian coming to the realization that Louis Bouyer succinctly describes in his book The Word, Church and Sacraments in Protestantism and Catholicism: In reaction against a destructive, anti-biblical modernist critique, Mark Shea begins to build a response, which ultimately leads him to realize one step at a time that the very authority of Scripture which Protestant Christianity seeks to uphold is, in fact, dependent on an adherence to Sacred Tradition as a legitimate source of revelation.
Shea does an excellent job of addressing this concept from all sides, voicing clearly and forcefully many of the doubts, concerns, and objections that arise from a thoughtful Protestant perspective; and then answering them in a way that does not depend on the prior acceptance of Catholic thought or doctrine, but demonstrates the natural shortcomings—and implications toward Catholicism—inherent in a viewpoint that conceives of Tradition and Scripture as opposed to one another. All the while, the progression of his argument is fueled by the constant goal of defending Scriptural authority against the modernist position that would cut up Christianity into a meaningless mosaic of self-help drivel and gnosticism centered around the "wise man" Jesus.
Even if you are only interested in this goal, and not in an investigation of Catholic thoughts on Sacred Tradition, I would recommend this book as an insightful account of a well-studied Evangelical's defense against this prevalent modern heresy.
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Dec 04, Christopher Metzger rated it it was amazing. Strangely, it leads him back to the patristic fathers of the Church and turns sola scriptura on its head. Fun little book for me. My Protestant friends warily finger the cover but will not open it when they see it prominently on the coffee table. May 24, Kevin Heldt rated it liked it.
Shea did a nice job with this book. It starts in an unexpected way, belaboring the problems of the Jesus Seminar types but he ends up making compelling connections between any system of that type and the fundamental Protestant approach as a whole. Dec 26, Madoline rated it liked it. I was looking to better understand why the Catholic Church elevates tradition to the same level as scripture, and this book provides a logically reasoned explanation of that and more from the perspective of a former evangelical.
This is one written by a real human being, not a committee of scholars. It's not only a good think; it's also a good read.
Concrete, clear, compelling arguments. Catholics will be drawn to it as an explanation and defense of Tradition and authority. Shea pulverizes all the attempts to escape from an appeal to Sacred Tradition. If I was required to surrender all of them, save but one, it would be this one: It is above all both convincing, and compelling. It is gentle on the unbeliever yet firm in showing our obligations to give primacy to the Truth of the One who is "the Way, the Truth, and the Life", as opposed to our own preconceived agendas.
It leads you step by step that is pleasing and interesting like a brotherly conversation to both those who are logical as well as those who live their religious beliefs by feelings alone. For those who wish to find the truth and the True Religion in the smorgasbord of religious denominations and sects 30, and counting , Mark truly gives us the path to follow. When you are done reading it, you can't help but see the sweet harmony that exists between the Church's Bible the Witness of light for the faith , the Sacred Tradition the lens explaining and giving full flesh to the truth of the witness , and the Church which is judge and preserver of the truth.
Without the teaching Church and Sacred Tradition of which Paul praises, we end up in the scandalous quagmire of "Bible Only" interpretations which have done so much to dismantle Christendom's attraction for all unbelievers who now gloat over our fundamental disagreements as to God's Truth. Besides my own copy which is glutted with marker clips and highlightings , I have given this book to many religious foes of Catholicism, and asked them to return it if they find it unconvincing.
None have come back to me so far. This book will save many a truth - hungry soul and may Mark's own soul be saved as he has saved so many. A true pleasure to read, Mark Shea writes about his movement toward "completing" his Evangelicalism through Catholic Tradition. Throughout his ordeal with Modernist doctrine, he reasons through his difficulties with Tradition using logic and wit.
Shea deals with some pretty weighty theological conflicts, yet presents complex arguments with admirable ease and charm. Whether you agree with him or not, Shea offers reasoning that deserves serious consideration for anyone searching for the truth. One of the best of its kind!
I was very impressed and would recommend this book to any Protestant especially Evangelicals to become acquainted with Tradition and learn why it is necessary for any guarantee of the truth of Our Lord's revelation. For Catholics it will help in learning to explain this topic to Protestants from someone Mark Shea whom I believe discusses this topic better than anyone else currently writing today. As a very likely ex- Protestant, I found this book extremely useful because the author describes how and why he accepted the Catholic Faith using terms that are understandable to the Protestant reader.
By What Authority?: An Evangelical Discovers Catholic Tradition by Mark Shea
The two were one—but not the same. They were the hydrogen and the oxygen that fused to form living water. They were the words and the tune of a single song. They were two sides of the same apostolic coin. In short, by Catholic lights, the one apostolic paradosis of Christ was handed on in just the way Paul had said it should be: I thought of the way in which these zealous archconservative purists and martyrs never regarded this extrabiblical Tradition as antibiblical.
I thought of the way in which even we Evangelicals relied on this extrabiblical Tradition when it came to abortion, polygamy, the Trinity, the closure of public revelation, and the canon itself. For infallibility is not the guarantee that Catholics will not have fools, scoundrels, crooks, and buffoons in their ranks—including in their clerical and even episcopal and papal ranks. Infallibility is, rather, the promise that despite all that sin, ignorance, and stupidity, the Holy Spirit and he alone will see to it that the Church will not lose track of the essentials of the gospel or define falsehood as crucial doctrine.
Saying that the sins of bishops discredit infallibility is like saying a shipwreck discredits lifeboats. Feb 11, Isaac Barton rated it liked it Shelves: It can be difficult to rate a book you disagree with. On one hand I found some of the arguments unconvincing. At many places the "Evangelical" position in the book is far too simplified and this meant that the conclusions don't always follow.
On the other hand this is a very well written book. Not only is it f It can be difficult to rate a book you disagree with. Not only is it fun to read but for an evangelical seeking to understand the Catholic view of the Bible you would be hard pressed to find anything better. Having read this I feel like I understand this issue better. I have questions I didn't have before.
I am still not convinced but this was time well spent. Maybe read alongside James White's Scripture Alone. Oct 01, Ben rated it really liked it. Christopher Thorpe rated it it was amazing Aug 17, John Stoneham rated it really liked it Feb 24, Dee Gray rated it it was amazing Apr 13, Edward Kotynski rated it really liked it Dec 18, Danny Collier rated it really liked it Jul 22, Jenica rated it really liked it Mar 01, Mark rated it it was amazing Aug 14, Leonidas rated it really liked it Aug 18,