Ce matin, le soleil brille. Ses jambes sont saines, il est remarquablement robuste, quoique fort disgracieux. Quelle ne fut pas ma surprise en y lisant ce qui suit:. Les chemins sont abominables. Tout autre est M. Au milieu de chaque face, une porte troue la muraille. Il fallut de nombreux massages et un billet de cinq dollars pour le calmer. Il parlait fort correctement notre langue. Notre troupe envahit la petite maison. On paie chaque animal cent vingt dollars. On faillit lui sauter au cou. On allait enfin voir la guerre. On nous a fait lever au milieu de la nuit.
Nous sommes encore plus furieux que la veille. Vers sept heures, M. Nous ne quitterons Anchantien que demain. Regardez en face de vous ces hauteurs, ce sont les positions des Russes. Je lui reprochai ses sombres pressentiments et lui rappelai sa promesse de me faire visiter Chidzouoka. Mais la voix de M. Les trois Japonais vont vers eux, descendent aussi de cheval et entament des pourparlers qui absorbent toute leur attention.
Je finis pourtant par les persuader, et nous nous portons de nouveau en avant. Des coupures et des tunnels, perpendiculaires aux ouvrages, permettent de communiquer sans danger avec le versant de Liaoyang. Telle est la position contre laquelle marchent les Japonais venant du sud. Le mamelon E offre certainement le meilleur observatoire du champ de bataille. Maintenant, devant toute la position russe, on distingue le fourmillement khaki se rapprochant par bonds.
Le spectacle est hideux. Il tourne son cheval vers le sud pendant que je mets le mien au galop pour rejoindre les colonnes de la 5 e division qui reprennent leur marche sur Liaoyang. La 5 e division marche dans cette direction pour appuyer le mouvement prescrit aux divisions de Kouroki. Il vint au-devant de moi, se nomma et me fit les honneurs avec une courtoisie parfaite.
Le sifflement des balles indiquait que nous approchions de la ligne de feu. Partout, des boutiques nues, surtout des restaurants et des ateliers de photographes. Il me donne quelques renseignements. Vous pouvez vous retirer. Nous leur offrons de partager notre modeste repas.
Ici, on ne peut rien acheter. Nous bifurquons sur un chemin excellent. Tout y marchait parfaitement. Dans ces conditions, le soldat vaut ce que vaut la population dont il sort. La situation est critique. Baie de Tokio, 16 mars. En rade de Matsouyama, 19 juin. Au premier plan le Tokioua. Le drapeau du 20 e. Occupation de la grande route de Liaoyang 4 septembre. La porte et les murs de Liaoyang. Espaces de noms Texte Discussion. This is literally killing small businesses. It is good to be able to and actually react to one's government's policy, but it's pointless if the only thing you can say is 'No'.
People should spend more time taking chances and suggesting new ideas, you can achieve so much more when you think about others first and not just your own self. So many people throughout the world dedicate their whole lives to finding solutions to others' problems, those are the ones to be admired. Why do rioter always destroy their own neighborhoods and property? Hardly ever do they go the the places where the fat cats and politicians live to smash some windows. I can't stop thinking how angry the owner of the car in 20 must feel. Most people that are on strike right now are youth who are: I have no respect for anyone who has to destroy someone else's property to get their point across.
Just wanted to propose a small correction for photo number 38, it's Nanterre instead of Naterre for the name of the university. The youngs here are just manipulated: As the french retirement system is based on reddistribution, if this bill don't make it, guess who will pay way more "retirement contribution" without getting more later?
The French very much dislike working - but if people live to be years old, and don't finish their state-sponsored Master Degree until they are 25 years old, then the small amount of time in between when that person is productive is limited to 35 years - in which time they will have children, take parental leave, enjoy plentiful holiday time. If only Americans could get this fired up over the impending Catfood Commission gutting of Social Security, or any issue apart from American Idol. I'll just add this: This is a burden because they are sustained by the state and do not give money for pension while working.
So increasing the age for minimum pension is like saying: Despite our french roots, you won't see these kind of pictures when the same decisions will occur in Quebec. I live in a small town, and i made all of the events, their is no violence, but it's terrible when you live in Paris or in Lyon, and when you see violence between policeman and students. But it's just, amazing pictures!
The main question is: Since , the rentability amount of money produced of a worker was multiplied by 6. Why cannot some of this money be used to provide the whole society a better living? I still have hope that people will realize that one day This revolt is again rich people again globalisation! Sarkozy and his friend G20, international banks and all rich people. Normaly in a conflict we have negociation but for today: France is not a democraty anymore. We just want to keep democraty. May be they are wrong but I don't think so I have to say that I'm french too ;.
Crazy photos, but these lazy people need to get back to work. I mean use some common sense. In today's world we many of us may live beyond with better understanding of health and better technology to fight disease. Extending a pension plan from 60 to 62 is no reason for the people of France to halt business and wreak havoc on their streets. What really struck me were the smirks on the university students faces as they chose to extend the closure of their school.
This should be hailed as an utter embarrassment for the people of France. I would like to point a little mistake in one of the pictures. You can see Flags with nice citations like "Ce n'est pas dans un palais de peur que l'espoir entrera" Eschyle "It's not in a Palace of Fear that Hope will come". I love the idea of power to the people and I wish that Americans would exercise our numbers in protest more often.
I think citizens of the USA are too quick to forgive or forget. It distracts from the point and makes all of the protester's point null and void. Using the term worker loosely are we Months per year of vacation Cant be fired unless they are give years of salary as severance? Why would a business hire anyone in this environment. You have to know that the age for minimum pension for people who conduct trains is 50 years. Each time something doesn't please them, they block the whole land.
In Argentina we went through this 10 years ago. Now we have a goverment that protects the rights of workers and pentionists. And, worst, do not want to see that making the people pay for the mistakes of the rich is WRONG and will cause more trouble. You are making the same mistakes we made in the past decade. French people you are an example for all the european continent. Be strong and go on with your strike! Those stupid dutch, italians, spanish need to follow your lead to the victory of the workers!!!
French living far away from France, I wonder why people strike about this law, and not about the fascisms actions and declarations of the government?? I'm not again manifestation, but I'm firmly against "blocage" and destruction that always come with it. And we are loosing so much money right now France look stupid and lazy to the rest of the world, I'm sure The beauty of the French is they care.
In other countries, the public is lazy, supressed, controlled and dominated USA, UK to name a couple. Sorry for not trusting the "There Is No Alternative" logic. Sorry for looking at facts: They have more deficit than us, a lot more household debts and approx. So please, tell me, why would we do those reforms? Sorry for not buying all those "but we live longer so we have to work longer".
Deeply sorry that you don't know what the productivity gains are. Sorry to use violence. It's the only way to change the world and to defend your rights. We're not the Americans, who just defend their little private property and bend over when their rights are taken away. We're not that selfish.
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If they're all in the streets doing stuff, then where are all the people sitting around complaining and not working? Once again we see the lazy Socialists at work. They are striking to be able to retire at 62? How that country gets anything done simply amazes me How about moving away from failed policies, unions and government supported welfare and taking care of yourself just once?
Many alternatives have been suggested. There has been no debate, no public discussions over the laws. That explains the riots. Hey, very nice pictures! I'm french too and I'd like to explain something. There are two types of demonstrators: They don't give a damn about the reform, they're just here to mess with the police, throw rocks, destroy shops, burn cars and bully younger demonstrators Those guys are just ruining everything Some days ago, young high school girl in Chelles near Paris was hit by a stone thrown by one of those hooded guys Some other people just get up in the morning and see their car totally burnt.
I don't think I will ever understand the French. There must be a less violent way for them to come to an agreement on this matter with the goverment. The damage that is being done to their cities right now looks like it will take at least 2 years to repair. I'm a french student, I have 23 years old, I worked hard to get my diploma, I get my Master, I wrote two Master thesis, and next month, I will be without job. The son of the president have 24 years old, he hadn't his diploma, he had no skill, no Bachelor French people help their bank during the "crash" and after the bank say "no" to help french people to build their country, to build their dream In French we are trying to say "Va te faire foutre, on lache rien" traduction: And one day I hope, western people will stand up for their right to have their own house, to build their enterprise, to have healthcare That's the spirit of France That's the spirit, so don't be surprised if there is young people who want destroy everything.
Plus, another factor of this violence, check the Top of Freedom of Speeches and Newspaper in France, we are 44 now!!! Finally, don't worry, French people seems violent especially the Police I wonder how much these idiots are costing France? Some guys just use this event to steal, brake, put cars on fire, etc. Hello I am French and I live in Lyon. What happened in Lyon is just unacceptable, today it was even a bigger mess when far right wing orientated people decided to go in the streets to fight with the strikers He obviously uses his cane to walk.
But he is being attacked. How can they say they are fighting for human rights and social welfare while they burn the city and vote themselves out of school? The work that will be needed to repair everything lost will take 2 years in the least. How can you expect your government to take care of you when you treat it like your worst enemy? Not burn cars and make out on asphalt. And why couldn't people retire at the age of 60? Because this would cost a lot of money! Then why not tax the speculative profits as well as the work?
I live in France, I assure you, this is not "war" throughout the country: Granted, the 60 to 62 years thing does seem a little step compared to other countries. But people over 50 are so much deconsidered in the workplace actually employers will fire them to get cheaper, younger blood who might already know a thing or two about how difficult it is to get a first job, so they'll pretty deal with any kind of bad treatment they'll receive that 2 more years to get to retirement will likely mean 2 more years of unemployement for some of them.
It's a bad thing money-wise and will hurt their esteem and their children's with possible social consequences. It's not a proper send-off and will hurt your pension amount in the end calculated from your best 25 earning years. Let's work on a proper plan to allow people to find a job until they retire including training and then we could talk about other things.
The other big point to consider is: Do you know many governements good enough to sort this big issue in a few weeks only? It took less than 3 months for Sarkozy to decide to raise the age for pension whereas a full review of the pensions systems took around 10 years to complete in Nordic Countries, where there has been a proper discussion between government, workers, unions His Little Excellency decided on his own and actually declared before his election he won't change a thing on pensions age , let a controversial minister deal with the debate Eric Woerth, neck-deep in scandals involving the l'Oreal owner, the richest person in the country and this is where we stand.
People on strike are not paid and will not get their lost days back, don't worry. They fight for their idea l of our Republic and it's a good thing. The situation with younger people is another thing, a generation distress from ok to banlieues ghettos neighbourhoods is showing, they don't believe in this type in politics but the peaceful ones still want to believe in this society. Oh God, so much racism and prejudices against french people in these comments Come back once you really now how the french system work instead of doing stupid redneck comments, okay?
These pictures make me weep. We work harder and hope to win the lottery.
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We thank the rich for creating jobs. This is a lesson. God bless the French. May we aspire one day to follow their example and say "no" to the neoliberalist a-holes who want to run the world. Melanie, two years to repair? It's a couple of smashed windows, and cars. Most of the windows were replaced the next day, and the rest is paid by insurances anyway. Hi I'm a french student, first of all, I'm glad to eventually figure out the the rest of the world writes about us. But I'd like to say that I think that even if that strike is justified I didn't even start to work, and I'll already have to work two years more at least , I think there are many people that go down the streets just to mess with the police.
I mean, on some photos we could think that they are defending an idea, but actually they are just there as hooligans. Last Tuesday I could read on a french blog the story that happened to the writer, his subway wagon was just assaulted by youths that seek violence. Of course the main part really is fighting against that reform. Actually, it's necessary to work more if we want to keep our pension system, this law will be accepted anyway. That was just to give you a french point of view on the whole strike, because you never know what it's like when you're abroad.
But to finish I'll admit that this post shows the whole situation very well. Trop de social tue le social. Il y aura toujours des parasites pour bouffer sur le dos des autres. Dans les champs de patates quand ya des doryphores I'm a french high school student living in Normandy North of France. My high school was closed because some of us blocked it. Some people were disrespectful during these demonstrations and I think that most of us should be so ashamed of having acting like that.
And, the most important thing is that we know that a reforme is necessary, but this reform is so unfair, especially for women. I'm don't have an opinion on Nicolas Sarkozy's reform, but I think that his government is a mess. The thing is that people voted for him but he didn't told french people that he would raise de retirement age. Most of us feel betrayed. And we want the government to hear us, and to make a fair reform. I hope that it will end soon, because we students are all pissed off by what is happening.
Sorry for my bad english anyway. It is true what 62 and others have said. The system is broke. The rich control the laws and everybodies pockets. Rasing the retirement age is just a delay tactic and will not fix the big picture. Protesting is an effective way too say "enough is enough". But stop burning things and hurting people. I'm 31 years old. And i approve strikes all people puzzled by protestation: And be sure it's possible to make business and have social right, it's not opposite.
The question is just: Can we share a bit all money from banks? Difference between rich people and poor people is too big. Some videos proves that clash people destroying shops and cars are plainclothes police officers The goal of this is to justify repression later. We need to work longer and not be a burden for our children and future generations. Official statistics say unemployement rate in years old is no less than Check out here for those who understand French: This will require more money to pay unemployement benefits, this may induce an increase in contributions taken from wages for unemployement social funds, so why not directly increase contributions for pensions?
Just wanted to ax a question: Just take a closer look at the 40th picture. This is one of the many problems we have in France: This is one of the reasons why the french have to protest: And I think you don't really get why this is happening. Of course it's about not to work 'till you die, but it's also cause our government, and that's the same for all the Western countries, are always asking for more to the regular worker.
But what about the banks? Why should we work longer whereas we gave billions to the banks, and whereas bonuses in Wall street and so on, have never been so high? Salaries are the same for decades, and cause of that our countries are going bankrupt. I would really be ready to work longer if we had a fair system.
Let's start to change this, and if it's not enough, people will agree a bit more to work longer. On my point of view, I don't get why you americans are not revolted with what's happening in your country, and all the mess this unregulated economic world did. When will you stand up to say "stop"? To end, in order you get a bit more why we also want to say "enough": This way, meanwhile the President is destroying our system, this changement will make his brother rich. Does that seem fair to you? Defining people as "parasites", compare them to the Colorado potato beetle, and wanting to get rid of them with chemicals.
It's lovely, very sweet. Would you get rid of them based on the color of their skin? The part of the city they come from? Let's be cynical for a moment. France can not use 3 useful tools when it comes to prevent urban violences and unemployment of the lower social classes: The only population who gave Sarkozy much more votes than to his opponent is the over People not concerned by pensions reform since it has been cleverly decided a pensions amount decrease will not be a proper option to reform the system. This is like our government propaguanda. There is a differences between medias ans reality.
In these case, it 's always better to inform yourself, even to see this social movement, even to undestrand why this reform is stupid. Be citizens and Act! I'm French, I live in Lyon and even if this blog's pictures are nicely done, the emphasis on the conflict between cops and protestants is really disgusting. You have to know that "CRS" are like human species' worst kind.
Thoses guys aren't serving the law or whatever, they just like to fight, especially students big strong guys in their 50s who started working young, meh, less easy. I did go on strike quite a few times and each time, cops are engaging the fight only to make protestants look bad. Another thing to know about this conflict. This strike isn't entirely caused by the pension reform. We have a government guilty of nepotism, corruption check out our dear Eric Woerth's last story, quite awesome if you're cynical. I have to walk to go to work because of this strike And I hope I'll have to do so until the government retires this stupid reform.
Last thing, the argument "others countries do it, it's normal" isn't one, really. Why do you allow free speech when China doesn't allow it? Yeah, I thought so. In France we fight for our rights, so if you sheeps just bow your head everytime your government opens its mouth, well sucks to be you. I am with you and with the people striking against this reform. We are not sheep! To all guys here stating "I will never understand the frenchies": Frence has one of the highest productivity rate in the world.
I'm French and I support the strikes. Someone in the comments said "How can you imagine breaking things just to make a point? How spending a thousand billion dollars on wars is normal and yet there's no money for Social Security or decent retirement plans? How bailing out greed-crazed banks with hundreds of billions of dollars is normal and yet there's no money for Social Security and decent retirement plans? You shouldn't ask yourself why these lazy crazy French go crazy over a tame reform compared to the systematic trampling of the poor and middle class in other countries.
You should ask yourself almost no one else does. Les doryphores en France ce ne sont pas ceux qu'on croit They indeed show a strike at some place peaceful times, and total chaos at the other. Some pictures are rare in France. Yes, we are the most productive people in the world. We're quite efficient but it could also be because: Congratulations, let's not hope it will create more stress, more work accidents or more drama. In other countries, people could be less productive but that could mean more people end up achieving the whole thing.
At the moment, I am Ashamed of my country Yet I love it It s just because of those people who don't care about other Frenches the great majority, the silent one who are totally blocked This is not the way to make a strike And the students I am one And if they want to have a job in 5 years they pretend that it won't be possible because of older who are still working , they can No, France is not a good exemple Sorry for my poor english You americans should read a little more and learn about other countries.
You would say more smart things. This fight is for democracy, not only pensions or retirement. Money, that's all you have in mind. French people aren't lazy, they want to avoid a new kind of dictatorship, which short Nicolas the 1st is building.
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Laws aren't discussed any more here. Do you remember "human rights" were born in France guys? I think the nicest picture is 40 it might explain why there is so many people unhappy with politics lately. Don't believe that France is burning, most of strike actions are riot-free! There are also peaceful strikes in Lyon, that concentrate most of demonstrators, while pictures of this city are only showing violence. Over-reprensatation of fighting scenes looks great on your screens, but it is mainly a useful to blind the public opinion: I loved your country. I'm French and I've been told since I'm young that there will be no more money for us when we retire.
So if by making every one working a little longer we have a chance of getting a pension then let's do it you lazy asses! Most of the people who went on strike were students and it's ridiculous they are not even employed yet that they start complaining and making the life of the people who work a nightmare. The statistics are wrong most of the people in france are tired of the never ending strikes and there is more wrong than right who comes out of it.
They're in the upper half for sure. They definitely beat out Congo, Afghanistan, Syria, Guatemala, etc It comes from a very small minority of disaffected youth who use the context of the demonstrations to let their darker impulses run freely. If you ask me, it's pretty surprising that the actual demonstrators do not use more violence, since Sarkozy is making ostentatious gifts to the rich parts of the population since its election, hundreds of millions euros are given as tax exemptions to the big french companies every year, a catastrophic crisis with extremely high unemployment rates is going on, and the government is adamantly refusing to negociate anything about this reform with unions who have been making offers for months.
For the rest, Xavier 30 said it all: France is one of the 10 richest countries in the world, productivity has been rising steadily since 30 years and we are fed success stories of rich people as examples everyday since Sarkozy took power. Why not share a small part of that wealth with the general population? France has one of the highest productivity in the world because they work less in a week France is just a country of people relying on the welfare system to survive, waiting for the government to help them and ASSIST them. This is one of the drawback of their social system which is regarded as one of the most sophisticated in the industrialized world.
And when government forces come to break a strike occupation, strikers dont respond with force, they go pacificly on another place. There are the biggest demonstrations of the french history. Everyday thousands of students cry their angry and the only response of the governement is to send riot police and shoot the student with flashball guns I'm french, and i think people who demonstrate, don't understand the reform. Only few people demonstrate in fact, youth because they don't want to study or they don't understand. In my college, nobody demonstrate. The strikes are due to the socialists and syndicates CGT Socialists say that they won't change the minimum age of retirement, but they never say how they'll pay retired person.
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Women, 64, men 63, emplyee, 59, manager, So please, don't be stupid with a years life expectancy, it means nothing. They had to cancel the release of official reports in order not to talk about it. Who is holding one of the companies trying to create such pension funds?
Mr Guillaume sarkozy, brother of the president After beign elected, he repeated that since it wasn't an electoral promise, he wouldn't even try to change the system. Then, where is the legitimacy, the democracy, the respect of the people? As for destructions, you should just try little search on internet, in order to see how police in plain clothes are destroying things in order to provoke violence and outrage There is at least 2 millions people in the street every day there is a demonstration.
I don't know, but when I see what happened with the banks a year ago, and that now, there still are people happy to carry on with such a system, dreaming in front of wealth and dying in poverty, i'm really sad What a bunch of whiners! Get back to work you lazy punks! I hope it will works!! I guess the basic question about this reform is: They should just shut up and let the government have its way. I'm french and the reaon why I didn't went on strike is because there's no real alternative proposed to fight this reform and most of people here don't know any of the terms in which this reform consist.
I hate fighting against ideas, even if they are really wrong and i think it is the case now. I would much more give a fight for brand new ideas. I'm the father of 3 kids and I don't apreciate the world that is gona come. I Will try to learn them to have ideas and to fight for them. Nice pics Big Pictures, as usual. The world does not understand that those strike are not only because of this reform It's also about thing not going right, Sarkozy is just making money, and don't care about France.
And everyone think at 62 we will have full money, but it's very wrong Good example of too much freedom run amok! Are the French getting too lazy that they are unwilling to work an extra 2 years before retiring? Since they apparently live longer than most Europeans, I think it's reasonable to work an extra 2 years since their government will provide financial and medical for the rest of their life.
Honestly, I don't think the French know how good their life is compared to the rest of the world. The French needs to Grow Up and understand that money doesn't grow on tress. Somebody has to fund social security and universal health care. As already stated, there are two kind of photos: The strike, and the minority of riots occuring alongside these kind of events.
To people stating that without socialism, you retire when you want when you've saved enough money: In our country, everybody gets a pension, even people who had their life broken and couldn't save anything. And we can of course also save money on our own, if we earn enough. The debate is about wealth repartition. This governement is all about taking money from the poor and giving it to big companies and already wealthy people.
This the non-violent protesters is people fighting for the opposit, not only the retirement age which is only one symptom of the problem. Just avoid this country. Northern Europe countries are by far better on every aspect landscape, economy, security, I don't understand the full situation, like probably most Americans and arguably most people anywhere.
However, my reaction to this is that, for only the non-violent protests that are occurring, I applaud the French who are standing up for something in which they strongly believe. I cannot recall the last time young Americans really felt compelled by something to take any kind of action. So to the commenter that said that this is another case of entitlement like we might see in American youth , I say that's another case of using that word improperly. I hope that they are just standing up for what they perceive are their rights. Once again I want to stress, for those who are doing it in a non-violent way, I applaud the action of the people who are trying to engage in a dialogue about this issue.
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The easiest solution is to declare a state of emergency and arrest every protester that causes damage but it also seems to cause a lot of criticism from other governments. About university and high school students that shouldn't be involded in this as retirement is far away for them, that's missing the point. The problem is not retirement age, it's employement. The retirement problem cannot be solved without fixing the employement problem, and youth protesting is a way of saying "we are comming, give tired people a rest and give us their job".
The pension reform is a pretext, a spark, triggering a deep anger on French politics pitting against each other, violating the values of the French republic. Sarkozy and those who support him are a another France. Sarkozy was elected on a policy of fear, and business performance for profit. It was a mistake to vote for that guy. You do not reform a country and many destiny of life as a business.
A country is not a business, it is a nation of people and values. Sure pension reform is necessary but there is another way to reform it. Majority of french support the strike and now, with "ce passage en force de la loi au Senat", i think it is going more explosive. You people from US and all other western countries should stand up and fight against the ones that take you everything: State, Banks, Fortune companies, etc It's wrong to say that most of french people don't support the strike.
There are differents ways to make a reform. It's seems that french people dislike their gouvernment's choice. The French are fools, they think they can continue living with a socialist economy and NOT have to pay the consequences for all of their government paid services. I see no point in throwing a temper tantrum over it. As always wonderful photos very interesting. Long live the spirit of May and ! Man, can anyone imagine America's self-obsessed youth taking to the streets like this over something as far-removed from their immediate concerns as retirement ages and pension reform?!
Kids here would only rise up if we shut off their Twitter and Facebook but then how would they coordinate? Jacque, Yvette and the rest of you kids over there--keep up the "good fight! Hello, just a message from France to clarify, as has already been said, the riots have nothing to do with the strike.
The rioters are simply offenders, who use the strike as an "excuse" to fight against police and break everything. Real protesters do not destroy the country! Second, about the retirement age, it is currently 65 years in France. You can retire from age 60, but with a lower pension. Actually, the government intends to increase the full rate retirement age to 67 years, and the minimum age to 62 years. About the support of the French, contrary to what someone stated above: Strike like this one are current frequent i'm only 16 and i've known ten or more.
Be in the strike is incredible,impressive, amazing, a huge procession of revolutionnaries, it's like nothing else. Imagine participate at a revolution, fight against police officiers, what a adrenaline thrust! The pension reform is not bad, really necessary but it's my point of view. Je n'ai plus d'essence. The wave of protestation is partly connected to the reform of retirement rules I think that most of my co-protestators are screaming in the streets against the entire politic of Nicolas Sarkozy He's our President since only 2 yrs and a half and it seems to us that we live under his reign since something like France's tired of its President's pathological frenzy Of course there are young people who don't understand the reform, and sometimes the politic globally in 20, it make them laugh , but I saw a lot of youths who were interested in the politic, who have a real political view, and this were not a minority.
Moreover, people express a globally rage to quote the man in 1 to the government and their disagreement with the politic of the last 3,5 years. As I'm concerned, I'm not feel so concerned by the reform, I'm 17, while 50 years, there probably will be others reform. But I don't agree with the government about how they made this reform. Without dialogue, the government ignored the protestations. Then I would say to all people who think we are manipulated, it's false. When we are 17 or 16, we are able to have a personal politic view and convictions to go to demonstration on blocked or high school like I did.
All the riots are not positive for the labor unions la CGT, CFDT, Sud, all the names written on flags , they could be easier criticized by the opponent to the strikes. Moreover I find necessary to reform the pension system, but I think we didn't choose the best way. To retire 2 years later in a part of the solution, but it shouldn't be the only and it's not the most fair. We should find other fair solutions and ways to fund the pensions.
I'd check your math. The difference, of course, is vital. Nice pictures as always, but it looks a little bit as if France was in a civil war. We're really far from it. As to the reforms: I'm not usually chauvinistic, but I can't understand why, in a era that make a man's work more and more productive, it would be necessary that everybody works more. It seems necessary according to fiancial mechanism, but these mechanism are not a fact of nature, only a human construction.
I think most people would accept to a reform if they were sure it will serve them, or their children. They just don't believe it. Because people are asked to work more but are not allowed to do so big rate of unemployement among the youth and the seniors , because of few scandals involving billions of euros, because of a president who seems to listen to nothing but to his own vision of the truth. Good reasons to go mad not to break anything, but to get really angry.
Or good reasons to think, and to see that these reforms are not intented to insure everybody a better living. The Big Picture is great, but it really needs a "slide show" mode, where you view one picture at full-screen size at a time while other pictures load in the background. Demonstrators have never used violence! Only a minority of young idiot who has nothing to do with the event France is a democratic country, which means that the people govern We fought for our rights, you do not take them back!
In the meantime, in the rest of the developed world, banks are bailed out with taxpayers' euros and dollars. Middle class' purchasing power is plummeting. Income inequality is becoming scandalous. But hey, those lazy socialist French, how do they dare not to work until death to save the economic system! A minority is just annoying others. I'm french, and I'm sooo ashamed by this kind of things, It's not reality, it's just communists in the street, not representatives of others normal people.
I still don't understand how they will ever benefit from a pension if they don't work more What I read, mostly, is not a strike against retirement age, but more about the government, and the "Sarkoiisme". People have enough, and are showing it, but there is absolutely no point in blocking people who are actually trying to create and bring business in France, this will only make it worse.
Yes sometimes it's hard but you need to work! Maybe a thought could be, to prohibit strike to state workers, like in Germany, and guess what, it's also the only country in EU that is working properly, and 67 is the retirement age, and plenty of over 67 are still working, or find part-time work. France is only at the 44th rank for freedom of the press.
Watch that, and you will understand why Sarkozy is the worst president of the Vth republic. He tricked everyone, his promises are lies, he can not be trusted. His laws are unfair. None of his ideas ever worked. He is the president of the rich. There was no negotiations. His only answers; Send the police and anti riots forces against the french people.
He planned all that. He is responsible for this mess. France is the country of human rights declaration. We wrote them many centuries ago while the country was in the same chaos. Watch us as we are writing a new page of our History. I'm living in the northeast suburbs, and I can tell you this pension bill is absolutely necessary. First, they should get their degree and worrying about getting a work before even talking about retirement.
Next, I am a suburban and I can't afford no car, I must ride on public transportation. Train mechanics are not concerned by this pension bill. This also applies to computer engineers. And they can cumulate work and pension. And though they go on strike 20 times more than others and it's a hell for people to go to work. I have seen far worse in the US, and I feel like French are spoiled. There is a general "Gov't owes me" attitudes which is overwhelming, and yet nobody wants to pay their taxes. There is a general hypocrisy and no solidarity.
One generally puts forward that, since they start working at 18, they will pay more than average. It's exactly what our retirement system relies on, since it is a solidarity distribution system. If nobody wanna pay the bill, who will? The French retirement age was 65 up until when it was changed to No one seems to know that. Sixty two seems a reasonable compromise. I wonder what the French would think of our Social Security retirement age of 67?
Very nice and artistic photos, indeed! But they only show a little part of the reality: It is not yet a civil war! There are about demonstrations in France twice a week: Most of them are really peaceful and quiet. But for the last few days, there have been some violent riots involving generally not more than a few dozens of young people in some places. The government expects these events to spread, so they can show their strength and inflexibility and they hope it makes this movement unpopular.
But, so far, it doesn't work: Most people realise that this reform is unfair. The real problem is that our government is autistic and is really responsible for all this as it is well explained in messages 63 and Now, to those who think French people are just lazy: Are we wrong to try to preserve our system if possible? You should fight for your rights too!!!
I can't be on strike because I would lose my work, and I'm happy that people yells for me in the street and wathever it's hard to go to work because there's no train between suburb and Paris. Why do journalists show young men destroying shops?! Those aren't part of the march! They just come to have fun and steal!
Your journalists didn't tell you about what people does here to object the politicians and administration when they do "fascism action" from the first comment. You must pay for your kids to go to University, for health insurance! For your home, for equality between poor and rich people!! We try to keep this in France, but our government want to turn things like in US. We don't want that! Somebody compairs people with them?!!! To all people who say, and think "the minority on strike is blocking the whole country and it's very very selfish" I would like to say: For me in this context, it means Sarkozy and his government.
They are the minority blocking the whole country. Don't be angry after the guys on strike, you're attacking the problem in the wrong way. You work less hours per day for less years than most of the worlds population. You should be grateful for this! In Germany neighbour to France the pension age is 67 - and in France still 60? No wonder that the french economy is a complete mess But you know what: The French should keep on dreaming of their socialist paradise - so I as a German don't have to worry about the competitive of our own economy: Too all the Frog-Eaters on the west side of the Rhine: Keep on wrecking your country.
It has finally caught up with France! France needs entrepreneurial people not people who are relying on employers for their paychecks and retirement. And if they decide to be employees then it's time to put in some real work hours. Be glad that it's not as harsh as it is in the third world countries wherein a young kid may have done more work than most hour week people do by 9: Comment 60 " 21 is really sad. This cane is filled with concrete, very good weapon Anyway do not judge if you're not in the country, because you have no idea what's going on there, the retirement bill is important for our country, and unless the government put a job in the hands of every young person in the country, that bill is necessary.
But so far, the bill appears to be unfair, especially toward women and those who have difficult works, that's mainly why it has to be reviewed. The government communication toward that is pathetic, and French people don't understand that in order to keep the country walking and to keep on being competitive, we have to side to the other EU countries such as Spain, Germany, G-B, Italy All this mess is due to unfair government imposed decisions.
People start to understand logic of liberalism and they really don't like it. Its just the beginning. About strike, biggest conflict during the last two years was in US: I never seen such a conflict inFrance. Nothing about government, it was just about wage I preefer loose few euros now than give my house to bankers, and send my family live under a bridge, like other smart peoples do.
It's true that we are so lazy. A high school student. I had to go through demonstration to go to school this week. Hitten by people of my age, demonstrating for something they don't even understand. I really can't get why two years would SO difficult to bear. Sorry if my english isn't that good and if my words don't really make sense I'm really angry, I had the worst weeks ever because of thoses strikes I didn't read all the comments, but there's an interesting debate in France about undercover cops infiltrating demonstrations. A video shows a man trying to prevent a hooded guy from smashing a bank window.
The hooded guy's friends then come and take the man apart, while the hooded guy vanishes. The video and explanations can be found here: The guys had been photographed before the demo when they left police cars. And please, if you think ths might be sci-fi, just have a look a this one, from canada: As an American, I commend you France.
American society is expert at letting government and corporate America roll over us. Blame it on the media or whoever - the fact remains. France, please continue to be an example of how people should stand up and demand justice. Ignore those who don't understand these are real issues and it's not merely a case of a "lazy workforce". They are the same ones who take whatever is given to them. The French are spoilt.