I must be the odd one out I told her that I was financially set for life and would never have to do any work ever in my home country. So if she wanted to live in my home country and have the same, that would be fine. She said she wanted to live in Japan, and I said fine but I would have get a job and work like every other man.
Then I told her that I didn't want any children in Japan and if we have them, they'll be born in my home country. So we get married and have the usual ups and downs without children. We argue like anybody else usually over money and when our finances got into dire straits she went and got a job. Recently my work situation has increased and I told her she could quit anytime, she just says that she enjoys her work and the new friends she has made. We've been married for 30 years. Some posters seem to be implying that the reasons for collapsed Japanese marriages are common to other countries too.
I think it's great that we have the internet now and can share the information that marrying a Japanese woman can turn out to be a horrible experience. That cute Japanese girlfriend you think is so sweet can turn into a nasty selfish stubborn hag once kids are on the scene Drive up the internet traffic for JT website. But another problem that I have seen after living in Japan for over 14 years, many of these so called dysfunctional women that shun their husbands, quite often pick up the slack somewhere else and this is something people don't often talk about.
But when I came to Japan back in , I was young and inquisitive like many young normal single men and many of the women I was with were married. That means, if there are women out there, that perhaps abstain from having sex, you never, ever truly know. Now older, wiser and married, marriage to a Japanese will keep you busy.
Have to work out a lot of issues. Differences do arise, but I'm NOT going to say so much that it's about Nationality more than it is about social upbringing and let's face it, a lot of women in Japan have it made living at home, before they get married,they have the best life living with their parents. They usually don't have to cook, clean, give up any money, ever worrying about NOT having a roof over their heads, the way, I was raised, we HAD to help out with the chores, cleaning, cooking, plus homework, all of it.
My house we couldn't sleep in late. We all had responsibilities, but most of these women don't and then once they leave the house and get into a marriage, they expect the same kind of treatment from their husband, a sort of continuation from their previous life and like some people already said, make a deal about sex and after the kids are born and they got that one precious thing they really wanted to complete their life is a child.
For many, after that, the man has fulfilled his job. I don't know what happens to some of these women afterwards, if they really don't like sex and the bonding or they are just not interested in the man they married. I'm not saying I'm an expert on the issue, but I have seen more than enough married women seeking an affair, many don't want to get divorced for obvious reasons but do want a little action on the side, which always perplexed me, and there are some that will live with their husbands, have open relationships, but NOT leave or file for a divorce.
Add to that a great paying job, Mom's can hang out together with the kids or go out talking, shopping etc, on the outside at least, perfect life. I'm not trying to label all Japanese women, but there sure are a whole lot of them that think this way. Many Japanese wives think it is fine to unilaterally shut down sex after having kids. Not only sex, but they will also rebuff any attempts at affection such as hugging and kissing.
In most Western world Love precede other things, while in many Asian regions Ren-Ai was, or still is, a capital offence. Definitely feel like some guys have allowed themselves to be put under manners.
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Establish ground rules on both ends prior to a kid's birth and apply the squeaking wheel approach when a tune-up is needed. I feel for the men who suffer the loss of intimacy and are given the cold shoulder by the J-wife after marriage and the birth of children. When I first heard of this awhile back I thought they were just isolated cases but it appears it happens often. I'm wondering if many of the foreign men had a proper talk and discussed this issue before they tied the knot, i. Communication is the key to any relationship, and openly relaying your expectations and desires to the other before marriage is just a practical thing to do.
I recall some of the posters here who are happy in their marriages did just this. BUT, every now and then…i personally don't see the harm in it I also heard a lot of the women let their husbands go out and fool around. It is not always as "clear cut" as some people seem to think As the ex- foreign -wife of a highly educated Japanese man, I can vouch that it is not always the wife who loses interest in sex after having children In this case, the husband preferred to beat, punch and kick his wife instead We were both working - and I continued working even after giving birth - and would have done so anyway, not only because he gave that as a prerequisite "condition" for getting married but because I've always been interested in continuing to work outside the house and at the beginning of his career, we needed the extra cash anyway.
When he started slapping the kids around, I managed to escape with the younger son but the elder one was "hidden away", which explains why I'm still here I could never have imagined such a change in the seemingly refined, considerate young man I met when we were both students in France If only it were that simple!
Have you never experienced the wraith of a manipulative woman? There is just no reasoning with them whatsoever. Well, when you've been with someone for a number of years and have made countless sacrifices, it all gets a bit messy. Then you throw the extended family into the mix and you only get deeper into a never-ending hole. The control-freak knows this and will play on this whenever they feel the need. They are "Losers Back Home", but they can get a girl just because they are native English speakers. This is what I heard, not my opinion, off course.
Do these guys think these problems occur because the wives are Japanese? Maybe these guys are really BAD in bed, maybe from not getting any at all back home. Try to PLEASE your wife by taking expensive vacations while you have to pay child support for your previous failed marriage s? It is your problem, not the Japanese wives'. Where is your normal husband and wife communication? Where is your "normal" family building plan? These are regular human relationship problems, not because the wives are Japanese. If you do, or if you think you will change your mind, then we should not get married.
She's nice enough to give me sen yen everyday so I can buy some coffee and an onigiri and get bus home if it's too cold. Yeah, I remember those days as well, but now I get yen at least got bumped up. I can go now to Starbucks and have enough to get those Hot Chicken nuggets at Lawson as for transportation, I go on foot, but I pay the car bill!
Pretty much all I read here I saw the potential in her. Not willing to be married until I bought a house is cash, wanting a 20K wedding, saying if I ever lost my job, she would take the kids and go back to Japan, wanting to start a business here in the states while she was still in Japan, asking for my help to manage it here but not wanting to be partners, telling me when we got older we would have separate sleeping areas.
Eventually it got to the point where I had to ask myself, what kind of future will I have with a woman I totally adored knowing this could be the outcome. I mean, I thought she was kidding when she would tell me this but over time I came to realize this may be the case. My advice, listen to both what she says when you two are separated in other countries as well as when you are together, and ask her to elaborate on thoughts you find not the norm.
This will help to give you an idea of what to expect. I decided not to marry her and married a Filipina instead It's easy to get into but hard as hell to get out. I read where some posters said you knew what you were getting into. I don't have the problems but think about it some of the posters said these J-Girls are very smart they say what you want to get what they want and then after you are trapped under their spell you can't say no, you are on the hook with kids and bills, but no thrills. People change over time so how could you negotiate LOVE? I mean just talk about it and plan it that's not going to work these stories prove that!.
I find this really catty.
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I've been hearing it for years. Surely foreign women in Japan would be insulted to be referred to as being here because they couldn't make it at home. While they may exist, they are certainly not the majority of foreign men in Japan. Most of the cases above are not cultural difference issues but personality issues. I'm sure the wives side have a lot to say. It's not because they are English speakers, it's because they are foreign.
The Italians, French and other non-English speaking foreigners also do well here. Foreign men are liked by women anywhere in the world. It's an evolutionary response by women to potentially being able to introduce new genetic lines into the local population, thereby strengthening it.
As to the 'LBH' designation however, it's only somewhat based in reality. There are a number of guys here for whom this designation is apt. But there are many guys, more even, who were normal back home and are normal here is well. The type of girl who makes this designation and it's not all of them by any means are usually the ones who are frustrated because they are used to having the upper hand back home, and they come to Japan and suddenly face a severe draught in terms of attention from men.
Most of the foreign guys are into Japanese girls, who generally though not always treat their men they way western men are used to treating their women back home. And most Japanese guys don't have the confidence to approach western women, and the women don't know phow to approach the men, never having had to. Between these factors, many foreign women get bitter, and explain it off by claiming all the foreign men were 'losers back home', trying to make themselves feel better about their situation.
What this often does is drive the foreign men even further away. Suddenly they see their Japanese girlfriend as a princess, and overlook issues she may have, in comparing those issues with what they see in the foreign women around them. Then they marry these women, overlooking the issues, and the result? The divorces you are reading about in this article.
Thank you for your kind words. It is not always easy to "relive" the past but this article just got to me It is over now, my "ex" died a few years ago but I still don't know what has happened to our elder son. To tell the truth, I'm a little afraid to try to find him - the last time I saw him, he punched me in the mouth Wow, that's a rough story altogether. Sorry to hear it. Don't count your kid out yet though which obviously you haven't.
As kids get older and more mature they also start to be able to see the world more objectively. Especially since the majority of foreign women in Japan, and indeed probably the ones using terms like LBH, are themselves losers who come here just because they like Arashi and cosplay and One Piece. There are obviously a lot to be said about this article.
And it certainly should be alarming for anyone considering international marriages. I think calling someone angry or mentally unstable is not right though. I think anger is an indication that the wife is obviously unfulfilled and disappointed at somethings. Instead of taking the blames on themselves and question their behaviors people like to blame the partner and point the fingers.
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And woman being demanding in bed is a problem? I thought its mans obligation to fulfill his partner in bes at whatever the cost. Why would a woman stay with a partner who cant fulfill her mentally and physically? A lot of men seem to be confused with the fact that east asian women at least more than 50percent could live without sex.
Even though they may need physical intimacy. Nobody knows the circumstances of an individuals life in their home country. What do Japanese know about this? Getting divorced is a part of life. There is lots of life to live so dont waste it being unhappy and stressed. You can only try so much. Japanese women not supporting their foreign husbands and trying to rule their lives are nothing but trouble. They are some of the coldest people Ive met. Was dating a Japanese girl here for over four years, we were living together and it amazed me how quickly our relationship turned into a scarily close representation of the "typical sexless, affection-less Japanese marriage" after we started living together.
In the end our physical needs brought it down A sad thing but we are still great friends though. After living in a different country she seems more affectionate and sexual now The next gf will get a hard talk about physical needs before getting serious FightingViking I'm sorry to hear about your situation before. I can't imagine how hellacious your experience was. I hope things are much better now. As for your eldest son, I'm glad you haven't given up on him. It may take time, but I'm sure eventually he'll come around. Wish you the best. My experience has been that by having many different girlfriends in Japan, I actually started to feel bad about the idea of getting married in case I upset one of the girls.
Thank you too for your kind words - I could have used a little more of that while I was still married but, on the contrary, I had a German "friend", married to a man from Taiwan, who used to hug him in front of me and say things like: The only issue that frequently comes up that I'm okay with is the "stay at home wife" concept. My only concern is making enough money for us all and that my wife maintains her drive.
I would be happy if she worked as well when we had kids but for me one of us raising our kids trumps both of us working. This is an issue that comes up repeatedly, and I confess to being puzzled. At what age is it going to be acceptable for your children to be exposed to non-related grown-ups and their nasty cooties? If you are planning to raise a family in Japan, with a Japanese partner, then I can't think of a better place to outsource the raising of your young ones than this country.
They speak the same language and no other , they eat the same foods, they share the same religion or lack thereof , and it's highly unlikely that your child is going to pick up any strange antisocial beliefs or habits from spending a few hours a day in a Japanese daycare center It isn't about exposing kiddies to 'nasty cooties' or fear of them picking up 'strange antisocial beliefs or habits'. Regardless of the country, some folk do not see the point in going through all the bother and discomfort of pregnancy and childbirth only to then pay someone else to do all the fun stuff.
They speak the same language and no other , they eat the same foods, they share the same religion or lack thereof. How do you know what language s people speak in their own home?
Isn't it more than likely that in an international household especially, more than one language is in use? Why would the parents want to deliberately limit their child's exposure to the secondary language, which needs more, not less, input, by placing him in a monolingual environment? Why wouldn't parents want to pass on their own mixed food culture, their own beliefs and morality, their own world view?
I would appreciate if you opened a space for us to discuss parenting issues. I think it will be a great thread and will get a lot of input from people in so-called "mixed marriages" who are or have parented in Japan.
Thanks in advance for your understanding and patience. Thanx for liking my name. My wife's Japanese and been married 18 years and she like all women can give me a whole world of pain. But as my grandmother used to say,"Even the king and queen have problems. You got out and you're happy for it. And I'm pleased for you. I just feel clumping one race of women all alike is amiss. That would be like saying all western women are I'm not worried about the teachers at the kindergarten giving children anti-social behavior, on the contrary they are for the most part pretty good though I do know of at least one teacher who bullies some of the children.
But I don't spend time with them talking with the teachers at length about the values I want to instill in my child, and for that matter, expecting them to give my child special treatment to instill these values would require them giving everyone that opportunity, which is definitely going to lead to conflicts between differeing parent's views. My wife and I on the other hand have spent lots of time discussing the values we want to instill in our child. The kindergarten is giving overall values to a wide-range of children, and in some situations we want to elaborate on that.
For example, one of the kids in my older child's class doesn't know how to deal with stress, and often hits other kids, including our son. My son doesn't want to be a tattle-tale, so the teacher doesn't even know it's an issue with him. My wife and I have discussed with our son reasons why the boy is the way he is, and ways that our son can deal with the situation. These are not things that are taught in the kindergarten, and if our child was at a nursery all day, we likely wouldn't be talking about it with him either.
So it's not an issue of 'nurseries are bad for children', it's an issue of 'we want more input into our child's life, rather than having the teachers at the nursery responsible for most of it'. Nope, that's not even a little bit suprising. My wife Japanese and myself British knew about the cultural differences before we got married, and they are, frankly, a minor consideration.
I actually find the cultural differences help keep things interesting. Her family welcomed me with open arms, and I get treated like a celebrity whenever we visit them in Japan. To find the reasons for divorce look to the crappy economy;that is what drives my friends to divorce-lack of money! I'm hoping that is upcoming in this series they seem to be writing. I'd imagine that now that they have done divorced foreign males, next will be divorced foreign females. Then I'm hoping for happy foreign males followed by happy foreign females.
I'm not holding my breath though. Complaining is our basic instincts. It is not Japanese girl who got problem, its we Gaijin who are hypocrite. Every country has different culture and if we are not ready to accommodate the same, we should not be married to girl of that country in first place. Working women may be norm in western nation but not in most of the Asian nation.
So, providing money to run the house is responsibility of husband, how can one say she is treating him as ATM. It is so naive and immoral reaction. I have been living with Japanese wife from last 5 years and have seen ups and downs of life but we come to compromise and that is what life is all about.
Problem do arise in relation but we should be able to solve as being a superior beings of this planet. Coming to social webpage and voicing negative comments about own wife makes us no different to animal. Time for soul searching. Never marry a Japanese woman unless you take your children to your country.
In Japan after divorce the women can steal your children and if your a foreigner you have no rights. When they sign the Hague convention in April , don't expect any changes. If you marry, do it in your country and get your kids passports in your respective country. Japan steals children and the lawyers, courts, politicians enjoy the flow of money knowing you are up against a brick wall.
Never has, never will. What's the best advice anyone's ever given me? Never even think about marrying. It's certainly served me well so far. And in Japan she pretty much dictates every decision you make from how much you spend to how to take a p Stay single. That's all I have to say. There are so many insightful things on here about cultural experiences living here. The good points of the internet, eh?
I don't know, people always want to say cultural differences are too difficult to work out. I personally think they are wonderful. But some have hoary stories. When I was with my ex, things seemed so perfect. I don't know what happened. Its like she just changed into a completely different person.
But then again, Maybe she was never the person who she portrayed to be in the first place. In the end, she mentioned how our thinking and culture was different, and that it would never work out, and how it would be better if she be with a japanese man, as her mother thought it would be best.
But waaaaay Before she did what she did, i was the one who suggested we break it off. But at that time, she was the one who wanted to keep it going saying how we shouldn't give up so easily. So i thought i had a fighter….? But as some people told me, maybe she just didn't want to be the one who got dumped, whatever that meant to her. Its like, cheap or kinda selfish. I personally find these people to be exactly this. Between all of the child abductions and aborting foreign mens children last minute, the salary men fooling around with other women being married, concealing their intentions with the Sha - ko -ji -rei…They just come off to me as being selfish, dishonest, deceiving people who just work hard and are perfectionist in competing…Thats it!
But life and humanity is so much more than this. I think relationships require mutual trust, communication, and honesty. Putting your cards out on the table and doing what you can for that person, not only taking something. But i don't feel they want to do that. Culturally, they are just not that kind of people. Of course there seems to be some success stories here. I guess it requires a certain type of gaijin or something. They seem to like their gaijin 'nihonjin tekki'. Whether it be fashion style or whatever.
I would like to think not everyone is the same, and people are NOT robots, you know? We have feelings of our own. But these days, I feel like you meet one of them, you pretty much know most of them! The salary men here make such good money and have such comfortable lives. Their little worlds are all laid out for them. All they have to do is just follow the process and do a bit of overtime at the office, go drinking with the colleagues, poor sake, go to the kyabakura, and they have everything!
Just comparing to other people in other countries who don't have anything. They just seem selfish. They have their mistress while their wives are perfectly ok with them fooling around. Their population is on the decline, But yet they don't want to mix with certain type of foreigner. I personally feel I can testify to the world with conviction that most of the worlds darkest devils reside here. If you look at things from a psychological perspective, You can also see why marriages are really damaged from their side culturally, and how marriages don't work for some foreigners.
Most of the girls at H. Have any of you ever heard of these manga? They are mostly popular among H. I don't really know the title. Thats why a lot of these boy bands and models you see on the trains look like women. I also heard lot of these women who are married actually have husbands who are gay, fooling with another man, and are totally ok with it because of this For as long as I have been here, I have seen everything under the sun. I should seriously look into writing a book.
But all these pollutants will cause many problems in a society and people. Overall, they are putting toxic into these children's heads so they will not be with a foreigner. LIke I said, you can have it. But I just don't want this crap seeping into my country and toxicating my people. I understand you've been through real tough times but to say Never marry a Japanese woman is not making sense. I do understand that there are many people who married Japanese and things didn't work out, but please know that there are many people and I am one of them who are not in your situation.
I don't have any solutions but to put all Japanese people or Japanese women in one category, to me, is nonsense. The person who let this girl go back to her mother should get eight years. The mother should never see the light of day. Love and sex is something of a primal urge, and seems to be understood in clinical terms by the Japanese. It's not too unlike some other primal urges, some of which are dirty and messy, that you may not really want to do, but are instinctually driven to.
I think Japanese look at western notions of romance as some kind of weird anomaly Wow, makes me loose some respect for Japanese women. Can't believe the couple that's divorcing because he has to take care of his parents in Virginia. Traditionally, that is one of the duties of a Japanese wife, to take care of her husbands family. It used to be a dishonor to the wife family if she gets divorced. Also the kids are part of the husband family and rarely goes to the wife. Well, gets tradition means nothing in Japan regardless of what Abe says or Taiji.
Traditionally marriages in Asia had nothing to do with love. They were a partnering of two families with the intention of having children, and raising the overall level of life for those families, as well as their descendants. Love-based marriages were almost unknown. Nowadays things are changing. They have moved further in the direction of western marriages, in that most marriages these days are love-based, but they have not abandoned the old ways at all.
There are still very strong traditional influences in Japanese marriages, including a dowry, paid by the husbands family, which is supposed to be used by the wife's family to provide a new home and furnish it, as well as the terminology that the wife 'goes to the husband's household'. The families are still both heavily involved in the wedding, as well as the marriage after it.
Fortunately they have moved beyond the point where women are required to stay in unhappy and sometimes dangerous marriages. There has been progress. Unfortunately this has gone in the other direction, where they almost always go to the wife, rather than the more appropriate parent. Best thing I ever did was chunk my ex-jp wife, traded her in for a young korean gf and 2 jp lovers. Also even though child support and alimony are paid by me, I have seen an increase in my funds. Nice post, can't agree with some though.
Back in the caveman days, marriage was the winner like a scene from Fight Club. Lets look at it another way. Maybe the genetic imprint from our thousands of years of fighting mother nature, the women are genetically conditioned to reject the corporatized culture read: From this perspective, it makes perfect sense their reaction. My heart bleeds for the over-privileged and no doubt in many cases overweight white men who go into shock when they discover the Japanese women they marry aren't the compliant, obedient, giggly geisha they thought they were getting.
You failed in your home countries so you thought you could come to Japan and get a wife who would shut up and let you take control? It is not because one person is 'this nationality' or the other 'that' but because of who they are anyway. I met my now wife of ten years when I was 26, we both know who we are and what we need to be, we didn't marry until I was 35 --we dated on and off and round and about-- and now I NEVER go to sleep, no matter what's happened during the day, either at work or between us without It IS hard work, you DO have let go the ego sometimes but make your woman happy and you'll be amazed the roads that open up.
Marrying my Japanese girl from Aichi has been The Best thing ever. Our children are loved, live is fun now and then and I still all my hair. Women lose their sex drive, men retain it forever seemingly. There is nothing foreign or Japanese about it. Some foreigners might have the wrong pretext of what a Japanese woman is, based on what they think of them through anime and x rated films.
Japanese women aren't their foreign husband's sexslaves. Just like any decent man, you need to romance your way into bed. A good start is a foot massage with oil.
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Too many American and European men in Japan are entitled and self-pitying. They should take this advice on board. I am very touched by your post. I see I have a "sister-in-sorrow" for the children taken away from us. I chose my "pseudo" because it seems I've never stopped fighting ever since I came to Japan I did manage to arrange it when our younger son was about 8 so that he could stay for a few days with his father and elder brother.
Of course I accompanied him by Shinkansen to the town where they lived and stayed with some friends in the area while he stayed with his father. At that time, things seemed to go well and our first son came to visit us in Tokyo for Christmas one year. Unfortunately, as he grew older, his father's rather "violent" influence had really rubbed off on him and when he was 19, he came to Tokyo, punctured one of my car's tyres, grabbed my keys including the "house key" and when I tried to follow him out of the office where I was working, he punched me in the mouth I was asked to find a new job somewhere else The last time I saw him was at his father's funeral but he just ignored me This sounds like the opinion of a western woman bitter from not getting the attention she feels entitled to from years of having the upper hand in the west.
The reason so many western male - Japanese female relationships work so well, is that both are used to being expected to treat their partners well, without receiving the reverse. So when they get together, it's a relationship where they are both treating each other well, which unsurprisingly leads to happy relationships, a low divorce rate, and mutual respect. And who said I was a Western woman in the first place? Interesting how you assume that criticism would have to come from a woman. The entitled gaijin who throws his toys out the pram when he doesn't get what he wants is a well-worn yet sadly true to life cliche, unfortunately.
I see we have both been through some pretty tough times. I'm glad you do know where your son is and that he seems to be all right. I'm sure there is a pretty big gap between our ages you and I and I'll no longer be able to find me someone new I did have a few happy years with another Japanese man, who took care of my younger son with me. We were planning on getting married he was also divorced but thanks to an extremely stupid "mistake" at a hospital, he was misdiagnosed as being "drunk" when in fact, it was brain haemorrhage as an ex-medical student, that was MY diagnosis but the dear doctor didn't believe me.
Two years and three months in a coma before finally "slipping away" His "legacy" though, is enormous! He had the most wonderful influence on my younger son, who is now taking very good care of me! FightingViking, please don't enter into a dialogue with so-called Mennonite Maiden.
Please, it's pretty obvious what you were implying. You assumed I was female because I called out the gaijin men on their misogyny which is very real and is evident nearly every time you meet a male foreigner in Japan. I'm one of those western men who have been contemplating whether or not I will divorce my Japanese wife. My reasons are close to those already mentioned here, but the main reason is because my wife simply does not respect me.
No matter how much work I do, no matter how much love I give, no matter how much help I provide, none of it is enough for her. It has become very stressful, and I think her selfishness is going to rub off on my daughter. That is my main concern. I don't want any man she may marry to have to deal with what I am going through now. It is why I decided never to marry a westerner. Looks like I really did in the end. Married to a Japanese women for 16 years. Our relationship is fun and loving.
Sure it is not like when we were in our 20's but our commitment to each other is strong. Well, aside from being a gaijin loser, a misogynist we're on every street corner in Japan, apparently entitled and self-pitying did I miss anything? I'm also a dad who adores his daughter and works hard to make sure there's food on the table. I'm not asking for much from my marriage.
A little recognition of the fact that I'm busting my arse wouldn't go amiss though. No, I directly said it sounded like the opinion of a bitter Western woman. I still have no clue whether you are bitter, western or a woman. But you have the opinion of one. You're going to pretend that wasn't aimed at me now? Come on, it was very obvious. Immediately assuming that whoever had this opinion was female was very telling. Plus, the very fact that you say these 'bitter' women have 'the upper hand in the west' shows you yourself subscribe to the self-pitying male gaijin narrative.
What do you mean by 'recognition'? As in thinking your wife owes you sex because you're the breadwinner? It is good to see different comments. Marriage is a tough gland it is WAY tougher when a cole of different ethnicity marry. I can speak from experience, having been married to a Japanese Woman for 57 years. Times have changed dramatically in our marriage time. We used to get threatening telephone calls, written letters and snide remarks on the street, but, we over came this and still have a great life together.
Just be cautious, take your time to get to know the person and don't get rushed into anything. You should figure out if it's going to work for you or not. The signs will be there. I'm very happily married to a Japanese woman - she is a great girl. Open minded, adventurous, good natured, well mannered and just generally a pleasure to spend time with. I don't recall saying that I require sex for services rendered. Still, it would be an improvement I suppose. I didn't say you said that. I asked you what you meant. And gross your answer. When we were dating, he was very sweet and loving.
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Right after we married, he became so cold. We don't make love only when he wants to which is rare , we don't go out and he just I have no idea what to do. Maybe divorce is option. When someone mistreats you, it is hard on you. Especially when always trying or at times blaming yourself when it isn't you at all. Women have to juggle two types of men in their life. There is no "the one" magic man who fits everything. Women categorize men into two categories: The "quick fling" and the "provider". If you're the quick fling, sex happens pretty quick and then you're let go to meet other woman and do the same thing to them.
If you're the provider, you're the workhorse who is supposed to pay all the bills. To a woman, a man cannot fill both roles at the same time. They are mutually exclusive by their very nature. Women only respect horn-dogs who love them and leave them, but then they go around saying that these guys are somehow "bad" in order to trick a provider men into a relationship where they are forced to work and disrespected for doing it.
And when you point this out this fallacy, women will categorically deny it and start with the ad hominem attacks. If you're really thinking about divorce, I hope you don't have any children yet. Better to do it before having any babies. Just me, myself and my heart. But thank you for advice and many blessings. I am sorry for what has happened to you and I hope you become reunited. I will send good vibes your way. I believe everyone shares ways and expressing their love,disdain or anything differently.
All people of various backgrounds do the things and these things that are mean. I just thought for the past 3 years that I was the problem in my marriage when it is not me. I believe we are not compatible husband and I and I don't regret my marriage. But I see everything in my life as "lesson learned".
Many blessings and good vibes. There are many great Japanese marriages. And many people married to Japanese who have plenty of affection and sex. But what anyone marrying a Japanese man OR woman needs to understand is that there really are MANY notice I didn't say all Japanese who think it's completely normal for romance, passion, sex, shows of affection to be for outside of or before marriage.
Anyone who has been in Japan for a long time and really knows Japanese society knows this, as do Japanese people. And for many, if it doesn't end at marriage it ends when the wife goes back to her parents to get ready for having a baby. Many if not most Japanese people think that's normal. The people I feel sorry for are those who thought their Japanese lover was different, but then saw a radical change after marriage.
Japan ranked dead last among 30 countries in the frequency of sex. Men and women need to get more realistic. Men need to start helping with the housework and supporting their wives' careers. Women need to stop waiting for the flawless man who's never going to show up. They have to compromise. Problem in Japan is that fewer and fewer women care about tradition. To me, that is not a "woman" but a "girl". I have never been the one to have my husband "provide" or was dependent on anyone.
I had a job as a special needs aide for autistic children as well as speech therapist. He is a head chef downtown Manhattan. You have to know what the person is bringing to the table. But what you described can be easily said about men. Boys want "quick flings" and a "provider" also. I have been married to a Japanese women. For 42 years yes it can be hard but most things said here don't sound right after all these years we are still very much in love the sex has slowed down but that is because of age and my medical conditions.
We are all different people live with it and talk things out. Many of these problems don't sound exclusive to international relationships, but marriage in general. Many couples report that sex slows down after having children, even in America. Books are written about this very topic, which you can find on Amazon.
So no surprise there. It is interesting that Japan has the least sex. But compared to America, Japan is a magical place where you are eye candy everywhere you go, just because you're white. Next time I go over there I'm going to have to rent out some oxygen tanks so I don't drown in all that foreign strange. Closest thing to heaven on Earth. Japanese women probably want the same thing all women want.
Excitement and a man with options. Anything less is settling for a chump that will pay the bills. Forget just Japanese women, if any woman got violent with me I would nip that behavior at the bud. Seriously, grow a pair of balls. The more of a pushover you are, the greater the likelihood that there will be reduced attraction on her end in the relationship over time. That's not Japanese culture, that's just human behavior. I feel for the guys here that say their wife doesn't respect them. I give her so much love and affection!
I treat her like a Princess! You don't have to be a hardass, but shit, don't be a bitch either. To trp, night life and non marriage relationships have less obstacles. I've killed it in every city I've visited in the world also, but I won't be ignorant of the challenges that lie ahead when I get married if the right person comes along. Being alpha in a singles situation is different than inside a marriage. I see that and would adapt when the need arises. Average divorce rate for Japanese men with Japanese women is Glad that you guys ended this article on a hopeful note. Also, I think that you included some good points, such as "it's not the cultural differences so much as it is the maturity on both parts.
I've heard crazier stories than these AND was and still am, to a lesser degree demonized by my ex who is American, like myself. I had a pretty darn bad upbringing as a child that caused me to not be prepared in any way, shape or form for a relationship so I made a HUGE mistake getting involved with her Now, I'm in Japan where I hope to be long-term and, like one of the guys above, just don't feel I connect with most western women, and though my dating in Japan has been very short just two weeks and counting , already I am feeling a better connection than I felt in China or the US.
I wouldnt mind be viewed like a ATM for my wife, as long as I get from her what I need, and as long as she can be understanding if a economic problem is generated for something out of my control; but it seems not always be the case. I wonder if there are similarities between the way the sex within the marriage is seen in Japan and the way it is seen in other traditional cultures, like christianity, judaism or islam.
Anyway there must be a strong connection between the inclination of wifes to avoid sex, and wifes approval of married men using prostitution. Ive decided to 'accept defeat and go with her flow' but at some point, I hope for a change. Sure she is 41 but that does not mean that she is dead either and she clearly has energy in doing other things that she personally enjoys doing. If I could get a reply somehow or given a link to another helpful source, that would be much appreciated.
Been married to a Japanese woman for 12 years. Literally when she found out she was pregnant she said that we couldn't have sex anymore as if it was the most normal thing in the world. I didn't get married so I could never have sex again. We have 3 kids and I love them all, but our sex life instantly dropped to 3 or 4 times a year.
I have never cheated on her but she would often threaten to divorce me if I did cheat on her, try and figure that one out. She doesn't want to have sex with me but doesn't want anyone else taking care of those needs. We haven't had sex in 2 years. We live in canada and I am worried she will abduct the kids back to Japan and I will lose my kids forever. I've had it up to the hilt with my Japanese Wife WTF before the second was born it was all different, soon as the second dropped Game over I'm sick of being in a sexless relationship.
Even when I get a shag I feel it's co-erced If we didn;t have kids I'd Divorce tomorrow I don't want another leech, so think I'll now just go whoring Men should wake up. Japan men have started a movement that millions around the world are following. No matter how silly, men should get out of marriages that are killing their soul.
Well guys, interesting reading this forum responses. Ugetsu monogatari and Harusame monogatari. Genres included horror, crime stories, morality stories, comedy, and pornography—often accompanied by colorful woodcut prints. Hokusai — , perhaps Japan's most famous woodblock print artist, also illustrated fiction as well as his famous 36 Views of Mount Fuji.
Nevertheless, in the Tokugawa, as in earlier periods, scholarly work continued to be published in Chinese, which was the language of the learned much as Latin was in Europe. The Meiji period marks the re-opening of Japan to the West, ending over two centuries of period of national seclusion , and a period of rapid industrialization. The introduction of European literature brought free verse into the poetic repertoire. It became widely used for longer works embodying new intellectual themes.
Young Japanese prose writers and dramatists struggled with a whole galaxy of new ideas and artistic schools, but novelists were the first to assimilate some of these concepts successfully. In the early Meiji period —s , Fukuzawa Yukichi authored Enlightenment literature, while pre-modern popular books depicted the quickly changing country. Mori also wrote some modern novels including The Dancing Girl , The Wild Geese , then later wrote historical novels. He eventually pursued transcendence of human emotions and egoism in his later works including Kokoro his last and unfinished novel Light and darkness They shared a common characteristic, Humanism.
Shiga's style was autobiographical and depicted states of his mind and sometimes classified as "I Novel" in this sense.
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During the s and early s the proletarian literary movement, comprising such writers as Takiji Kobayashi , Denji Kuroshima , Yuriko Miyamoto , and Ineko Sata produced a politically radical literature depicting the harsh lives of workers, peasants, women, and other downtrodden members of society, and their struggles for change.
Many authors wrote stories of disaffection, loss of purpose, and the coping with defeat. Haruo Umezaki 's short story Sakurajima shows a disillusioned and skeptical Navy officer stationed in a base located on the Sakurajima volcanic island, close to Kagoshima , on the southern tip of the Kyushu island. Yukio Mishima , well known for both his nihilistic writing and his controversial suicide by seppuku , began writing in the post-war period.
Nobuo Kojima 's short story "The American School" portrays a group of Japanese teachers of English who, in the immediate aftermath of the war, deal with the American occupation in varying ways. Prominent writers of the s and s were identified with intellectual and moral issues in their attempts to raise social and political consciousness. Mitsuharu Inoue ja had long been concerned with the atomic bomb and continued in the s to write on problems of the nuclear age, while Shusaku Endo depicted the religious dilemma of the Kakure Kirishitan , Roman Catholics in feudal Japan, as a springboard to address spiritual problems.
Yasushi Inoue also turned to the past in masterful historical novels of Inner Asia and ancient Japan, in order to portray present human fate. Yoshikichi Furui tellingly related the lives of alienated urban dwellers coping with the minutiae of daily life, while the psychodramas within such daily life crises have been explored by a rising number of important women novelists.
The Naoki Prize went to Shizuko Todo ja for Ripening Summer , a story capturing the complex psychology of modern women. Haruki Murakami is one of the most popular and controversial of today's Japanese authors. His genre-defying, humorous and surreal works have sparked fierce debates in Japan over whether they are true "literature" or simple pop-fiction: Banana Yoshimoto , a best-selling contemporary author whose "manga-esque" style of writing sparked much controversy when she debuted in the late s, has come to be recognized as a unique and talented author over the intervening years.
Her writing style stresses dialogue over description, resembling the script of a manga , and her works focus on love, friendship and loss. Her breakout work was 's Kitchen. Although modern Japanese writers covered a wide variety of subjects, one particularly Japanese approach stressed their subjects' inner lives, widening the earlier novel's preoccupation with the narrator's consciousness. In Japanese fiction, plot development and action have often been of secondary interest to emotional issues.
In keeping with the general trend toward reaffirming national characteristics, many old themes re-emerged, and some authors turned consciously to the past. Strikingly, Buddhist attitudes about the importance of knowing oneself and the poignant impermanence of things formed an undercurrent to sharp social criticism of this material age.
There was a growing emphasis on women's roles, the Japanese persona in the modern world, and the malaise of common people lost in the complexities of urban culture. Popular fiction, non-fiction, and children's literature all flourished in urban Japan in the s. Many popular works fell between "pure literature" and pulp novels, including all sorts of historical serials, information-packed docudramas, science fiction, mysteries, detective fiction , business stories, war journals, and animal stories.
Non-fiction covered everything from crime to politics. Although factual journalism predominated, many of these works were interpretive, reflecting a high degree of individualism. Children's works re-emerged in the s, and the newer entrants into this field, many of them younger women, brought new vitality to it in the s. Manga comics has penetrated almost every sector of the popular market. It includes virtually every field of human interest, such as multivolume high-school histories of Japan and, for the adult market, a manga introduction to economics, and pornography.
Cell phone novels appeared in the early 21st century. Written by and for cell phone users , the novels—typically romances read by young women—have become very popular both online and in print. Some, such as Love Sky , have sold millions of print copies, and at the end of cell phone novels comprised four of the top five fiction best sellers. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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